You tell 'im Tony!
Tony Blair, the former PM of England, believes that the Pope has to re-think his stance on gays.
Whether or not the Pope (82 y.o.!) cares to listen to Blair now, perhaps his words will sink into his ageing mind.
I am not age-ist here, but I do find that there is a generational divide that exists on the inclusion or exclusion of LGBTQ people from and in communities of faith. And this is because of my experience as an out gay clergyperson.
I would be amazed if this Pope would change his mind. John Paul II, perhaps. Benedict? Doubtful.
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Marriage: A legal union between two consenting individuals of legal age, that are not biologically related to one another. It can be between two individuals of the opposite sex or it can be between two individuals of the same sex. However, if it's between two individuals of the same sex, it's considered a Civil Marriage that is recognized by the government of the United States of America, but does not have to be recognized by the Church or other Religious Institutions. This is what is meant by separation of Church and State.
Since marriage is between only two individuals, this eliminates Polygamists or those that want a threesome marriage. Since marriage cannot be between relatives, this eliminates any marriage based on incest. Since marriage is between two consenting individuals of legal age, this eliminates marriage with an animal or with a minor. Even though procreation is part of marriage, it's not the "only" part and there are a lot of heterosexual couples who can not procreate. A marriage doesn't make a family and a family doesn't make a marriage.
There are different types of marriages. And whatever type of sex that consenting individuals of legal age engage in, is their business and their business only. However, if marriage is so important to society then explain these situations for me...
a) You have reality shows where the public not the man/woman picks the bride or groom...
b) People are getting married all over and over again without, legally, being divorced. And the government doesn't have any system or controls in place...
c) How can you annul a marriage years after the fact, especially when children were born from that union?
d) How can you get married by, and again, in the Catholic Church after being legally divorced?
e) And you have people marrying total strangers for money, so that one of them can stay in the U.S.A legally...
Just something to think about.
by Mr. Johnnie Newkirk
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Marriage: A legal union between two consenting individuals of legal age, that are not biologically related to one another. It can be between two individuals of the opposite sex or it can be between two individuals of the same sex. However, if it's between two individuals of the same sex, it's considered a Civil Marriage that is recognized by the government of the United States of America, but does not have to be recognized by the Church or other Religious Institutions. This is what is meant by separation of Church and State.
Since marriage is between only two individuals, this eliminates Polygamists or those that want a threesome marriage. Since marriage cannot be between relatives, this eliminates any marriage based on incest. Since marriage is between two consenting individuals of legal age, this eliminates marriage with an animal or with a minor. Even though procreation is part of marriage, it's not the "only" part and there are a lot of heterosexual couples who can not procreate. A marriage doesn't make a family and a family doesn't make a marriage.
There are different types of marriages. And whatever type of sex that consenting individuals of legal age engage in, is their business and their business only. However, if marriage is so important to society then explain these situations for me...
a) You have reality shows where the public not the man/woman picks the bride or groom...
b) People are getting married all over and over again without, legally, being divorced. And the government doesn't have any system or controls in place...
c) How can you annul a marriage years after the fact, especially when children were born from that union?
d) How can you get married by, and again, in the Catholic Church after being legally divorced?
e) And you have people marrying total strangers for money, so that one of them can stay in the U.S.A legally...
Just something to think about.
by Mr. Johnnie Newkirk
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